Dawn Song is a professor of computer science at UC Berkeley with research interests in security, most recently with a focus on the intersection between computer security and machine learning.

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OUTLINE:

00:00 – Introduction

01:53 – Will software always have security vulnerabilities?

09:06 – Human are the weakest link in security

16:50 – Adversarial machine learning

51:27 – Adversarial attacks on Tesla Autopilot and self-driving cars

57:33 – Privacy attacks

1:05:47 – Ownership of data

1:22:13 – Blockchain and cryptocurrency

1:32:13 – Program synthesis

1:44:57 – A journey from physics to computer science

1:56:03 – US and China

1:58:19 – Transformative moment

2:00:02 – Meaning of life