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OUTLINE:

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(00:00) – Introduction

(07:44) – Lab leak

(1:06:18) – Gain-of-function research

(1:15:49) – Anthony Fauci

(1:25:31) – Francis Collins

(1:30:13) – Joe Rogan, Brett Weinstein, and Sam Harris

(2:00:10) – Xi Jinping

(2:14:41) – Patient Zero

(2:27:55) – WHO

(2:51:45) – Government transparency

(3:13:45) – Likelihood of a cover-up

(3:15:34) – Future of reproduction

(3:51:12) – Jon Stewart

(3:56:31) – Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta

(4:21:36) – Ultramarathons

(4:31:38) – Chocolate

(4:39:51) – One Shared World

(4:54:54) – Hope for the future