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(00:00:37) Introduction and bitcoin events (00:02:11) Thanks to supporters and donation options (00:04:20) Introduction of guests (00:05:47) Discussion on the value of bitcoin (00:19:30) Bitcoin as a savings technology (00:27:17) Volatility and challenges in emerging markets (00:38:14) Why bitcoin has been successful compared to previous attempts (01:08:12) Volatility of bitcoin and its potential stability in the long term (01:22:53) Onboarding the next billion users to bitcoin (01:27:14) Different trade-offs in using exchanges and custodial lightning (01:28:10) Liquid as a trade-off between centralized exchanges and noncustodial options (01:29:44) Advantages and risks of using Liquid for trading and rebalancing Lightning channels (02:09:29) Bitcoin’s future and scalability (02:10:26) The value of free markets and the maturity of bitcoin (02:11:24) Disappointment in backtracking on bold predictions